The Fellowship of the Ring discussion, part the second
Posted September 17, 2011
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Hi Everyone, it’s an autumnal feeling Saturday, which means it’s time for a Lord of the Rings discussion! This weeks discussion covered the middle part of The Fellowship of the Ring. This week’s questions were supplied by Geeky Daddy.
Join in anytime by expressing interesting in the comments of this post, or tweeting myself or Geeky Daddy.
Our story so far: Frodo knows what he has, his friends won’t leave his side, they travel to Rivendell to meet with Elrond. Along the way, they meet a mysterious man named Strider, who tells them that he is a friend of Gandalf.
At Rivendell, it’s decided the only way to stop the power of the ring is to destroy it. The only fires hot enough to melt it are those in which it was forged. The ring-bearer must travel to Mount Doom, behind the eyes of the enemy, to destroy the single ring of power.
And on to the discussion questions!
1. What was your initial thoughts of Strider/Aragorn when Hobbits met up with him in The Prancing Pony? Did you think that he was linked with the Riders?
2.What was the biggest surprised to you during this section of the Fellowship of the Ring?
3.Do you like that Tolkien goes in depth and tells the readers of the history events of the war that is upon the Fellowship?
4. How far do you think you would have lasted if you were Frodo and nearly becoming a Rider?
5. As dangerous quest unfold to become, the other hobbits want to stick by Frodo til the end. Would you sacrifice yourself and stick with Frodo til the end?
Read everyone else’s discussions:
Geeky Daddy
Stainless Steel Droppings
The Written World
All Booked Up
My Rammblings
The Blue Fairy’s Bookshelf
Mithril Wisdom
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Lynn’s Book Blog
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my answers after the jump!
1. What was your initial thoughts of Strider/Aragorn when Hobbits met up with him in The Prancing Pony? Did you think that he was linked with the Riders?
I didn’t think he was a bad guy, but I wasn’t quite sure if he was a good guy either. This is where I wish I had read these before seeing the movies, because in the movies you find out about 5 seconds later that he’s a good guy. I appreciated in the book that it’s drawn out a bit, that the Hobbits, especially Sam, don’t trust him. He’s got to work for their trust.
2.What was the biggest surprised to you during this section of the Fellowship of the Ring?
That everyone at the Council in Rivendell seems to have their own agenda. I wasn’t quite sure why Elrond had invited so many people beyond Gandalf and the Ring bearer, other than that he wanted to represented all the different races of Middle Earth. but Borimir seems ready to take the ring right now, and Gimli is questing to find one of the dwarvish rings of power. IT’s not like they all showed up and said “Hi Elrond, how may we assist you?”. they’re mostly doing this because there is something in it for them too. Well played Tolkien, well played!
3.Do you like that Tolkien goes in depth and tells the readers of the history events of the war that is upon the Fellowship?
Yes and no. it was some wonderful world building, and you know I always appreciate that. And I did like that when everyone takes their turn talking at the council more information comes out (Elrond might be nearly immortal, but he doesn’t know everything!). Near the end of that section though, I was ready to move on. Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of this book, and I know and understand why it’s as famous as it is, but Tolkien’s writing style just isn’t doing much for me.
4. How far do you think you would have lasted if you were Frodo and nearly becoming a Rider?
lol, like a minute! I’ve got like zero tolerance for pain. good thing he’s a zillion times stronger than me!
5. As dangerous quest unfold to become, the other hobbits want to stick by Frodo til the end. Would you sacrifice yourself and stick with Frodo til the end?
isn’t that what friends are for? And i’m not sure yet if they are “sacrificing themselves”. Sure, they are leaving home, going someplace scary that they don’t know anything about, and walking right into danger, but no one yet has said “let me die so you can go on”. they just don’t want their friend to be all by himself. and secretly I wonder if Pippin and Merry have been itching for some grown up adventure away from the Shire. when someone is your best friend, you stick with them through thick and thin.
11 Responses to "The Fellowship of the Ring discussion, part the second"
I like the level of detail in the books and wouldn’t have wanted to see it any shorter.
My response: http://allbookedup-elena.blogspot.com/2011/09/lord-of-rings-read-along-part-two.html
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I’ve been at work most of the day, but I posted my responses this morning: http://bluefairysbookshelf.blogspot.com/2011/09/lotr-read-along-fellowship-chapters-9.html
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Oh, and this was bothering me when I wrote up my article. I know the hobbits call them “Black Riders,” but that’s because they can’t be bothered to figure out the truth before Gandalf explains. When he was injured, Frodo was in danger of becoming a wraith (not dissimilar to those met under the Barrow-Downs) and so easily under the control of the Ringwraiths, and through them, of Sauron. He could not have become a Ringwraith, (despite currently being a Ringbearer, one of only three living to have borne the One Ring at this point in the story) because the Ringwraiths are the nine bearers of the Rings of Men. “Nine Rings for mortal men doomed to die” and all that. Sorry to be a bit pedantic, just wanted to clarify that for anyone playing along at home. 😉
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I’ll be back to comment this afternoon, but here is my link:
http://www.stainlesssteeldroppings.com/the-fellowship-of-the-ring-group-read-part-2
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LOL, I think both you and Kailana are underestimating the situation the Hobbits were in. I don’t think they had a good idea of what they were getting into, but at that point at the Council where they decided to travel on, they had been through sleepless nights of seemingly endless watching, missed and subpar meals, no comfort, terrifying battles with the Black Riders, and their friend Frodo’s near death. I do think they were definitely sacrificing themselves in the sense of giving up all that they were used to and were no longer doing it for ‘adventure’ but because of their dedication to one another. “Sacrificing yourself” doesn’t mean just giving up your life. In fact that is the easier path to sacrificing yourself, as once its done its done. True self-sacrifice is the setting aside of your own desires, etc. in service of others. And I think the Hobbits had already seen by this point that “adventure” is largely in the eye of the beholder and is much more interesting when being recounted later.
I also enjoyed that Tolkien draws out the “who is this Strider” moment longer. The movie has to rush some things by for the sake of time. I also like that Sam was hard to convince and how important it was for Strider to get them to put their trust in him.
I believe Elrond makes some statement to the effect that the evil touched all the free peoples of Middle-earth and that it was important that they all decide its fate. I’m sure he realized that at least at the beginning they would need to all be in agreement or Frodo and company would have even more enemies to contend with on the road to Mordor.
Sorry you are not enjoying Tolkien’s writing style as much. The Council of Elrond is, in one chapter, exactly what thrills me about Tolkien’s work. It is why I like The Silmarillion so very much. The detailed history is just so fascinating to me.
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I think that you are right about question 5. You find out who your true friends are in the tough times. In a time like this Frodo does find out that his fellow hobbits are with him to the end of the journey.
It is something how the winds have shifted in the section of the book. I do think that you would last a bit longer in question 4 than you give yourself credit for in the quest.
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1 | Kailana
September 17, 2011 at 12:00 pm
I didn’t really look at it as them ‘sacrificing themselves’ either. It was more like a grand adventure and they wouldn’t want to miss out on that.
Some things do go on and on in this book. You can tell the editing process is not nearly the same then as it was now. I imagine if he was writing now the books would be shorter… There is a bit too much detail sometimes that could easily be taken out.
My post is here: http://myreadingbooks.blogspot.com/2011/09/fellowship-of-ring-read-along-part-2.html
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