Did it/Will it stand the test of time?
Posted January 7, 2014
on:So many of these Vintage SF books feel dated, don’t they? computers that are the size of rooms, a lack of non-male and non-anglo characters, technology that doesn’t really work, being able to breathe unaided on the surface of the Moon or Venus or some such. City dwellers who don’t know how to use a telephone or drive a car. Wow that feels dated!
What “classic” science fiction books have stood the test of time? written decades ago, how has it survived not feeling dated? Is it something about the prose, the characters, the setting, the technology?
And now for the second, far more interesting question, prompted by a guest post written here a few days ago by Kamo of this is how she fight start. Go read the post, it’s one of my favorites, but the gist of it is this:
“Vintage SF is a perfect singularity of past, present, and future tenses. It shows us the world as it was going to be. When the world is changing fast enough that it becomes unrecognizable within the space of a lifetime that’s a rare kind of unity.”
Among other discussions in the comments, it’s mentioned that older science fiction is a time capsule, and that science fiction is always on the edge of and flirting with obsolescence, that all science fiction writers are influenced by what came before, whether they realize it or not.
There’s a lot to unpack in that post, and in the comments. Kamo’s post prompts me to make a minor change to my original question:
What modern science fiction books will stand the test of time?
fifty years from now, when some other blogger does a Vintage month, what science fiction books written in the last 10 years will have stood the test of time? What will feel timeless, what will feel dated? what is the particular variable that will make a book feel dated, or feel timeless?
19 Responses to "Did it/Will it stand the test of time?"
SF works that don’t date seem to be ones that deal more with social SF than the specifics of how technology works. A new reader would not guess that Alfred Bester’s The Stars My Destination and Theodore Sturgeon’s More Than Human were written in the fifties. Philip K Dick’s works also transcend the age they were written.
I expect books like Neal Stephensens’ Snow Crash, Kim Stanley Robinson’s Mars Trilogy, and Scott Card’s Ender’s Game to stand the test of time among SF fans. The technology is surreal enough to avoid going obsolete anytime soon (although Ender’s Game has some parts that are reminiscent of 8-bit video games).
As for the 2000’s, I think The Windup Girl by Paulo Bacigalupi is a good candidate. Dystopian fiction has been popular in many decades and he is releasing a book published by Knopf this year. I’ll also mention Cory Doctorow’s Little Brother and ditto Lois McMaster Bujold
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Childhoods End, The Stars my Destination, More Than Human all hold up very well. Asimov on the other hand I find unreadable now. The quality of his writing doesn’t pass muster anymore.
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Any heavy emphasis on technology will probably certainly make things feel dated. Books like my last year’s favorite, Love Minus Eighty, could potentially be very dated by that point. Certainly Charles Stross’ books Halting State and Rule 34 which are near-future science fiction will feel dated.
Those are books with a “heavy” emphasis on the tech. I think those with a lighter emphasis could stand the test of time. Dune is a perfect example of a classic book in that there are certainly dated elements about Dune, but as this is less about predictive technology and more about political and economic and social factors that are surprisingly relevant today, that book itself could still be relevant in another 50 years depending on where we are at in these areas.
I’m not sure what current books won’t feel dated. I just read several short stories by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller which are a mix of future technology that isn’t wildly specific and old fashioned ways of doing things that are based on a society that continues to function with old world norms in some areas. That kind of thing probably won’t feel any more dated 50 years from now as it does today because the stories are much more about characters and human interactions which don’t change wildly over time.
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Thank you for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed it 🙂
As to your question, I reckon Maybe Mievelle’s Bas Lag books, if only as exemplars of the New Weird. Plus alternate world stuff always has a get out when it comes to the march of progress.
And, if you really want to unpack stuff, maybe I should mention where I originally thought that post would go before the jokes took over and, honestly, I kinda chickened out. If we hold to the theory I set out that SF is really about *social* change, then of the speeches I show my kids, the one about going to the moon is actually the *less* SFnal of the two. Obviously that’s relatively sensitive territory and the truth is I has minimal confidence I wouldn’t plod in there with my size elevens and kick stuff all over the shop, but maybe you good people can give it better consideration here.
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[…] much my perspective as a viewer had changed without my being consciously aware of it. When I read this post at the Little Red Reviewer, it got me thinking in a broad sense about what makes a work last. […]
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1 | Lisa (@EffingRainbow)
January 7, 2014 at 8:02 am
Excellent question.
I think it’ll be easier for modern SF to pass that test, not because of any of the tech or visions of the future, but just because a lot of really good SF that’s being written now is more about people, about humanity and where we’re heading, rather than where technology is heading. I think there will always be a future generation that picks up this or that book and scoffs a little at what we thought of ‘future tech’ – and we’re advancing further and faster in that than we ever have before, so maybe that’s becoming more likely every day – but humanity in general is nowhere close to changing or leaping forward, as it were, as fast as our gadgets and modern conveniences are… I think that will be where future generations can easily relate what will be their vintage SF.
Then again, of course, I kind of hope I’m wrong about that… 😉
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Mikel King
January 8, 2014 at 12:26 pm
you describe Dune…
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Redhead
January 8, 2014 at 12:42 pm
Dune is one of the first titles that came to mind for me as I was writing/thinking about this post.
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Richard
January 8, 2014 at 2:51 pm
Yet Dune is more about people than tech at all,somewhat negating Lisa, comment. My experience as an Old Guy, reading science fiction since the mid 1950s, is that it was and still is about people more than science.
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Grace
January 11, 2014 at 2:47 pm
This! It’s about using other worlds or technology to explore themes that are applicable to our own world, no matter what time we live in. That’s why Asimov is so awesome.
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